15.10.12, 09:24, dodany przez Galadhorn
The German fan site Herr-der-Ringe-Film has posted new pictures from The Hobbit movies that are currently on display at the Frankfurt Book Fair. The most mysterious one is the picture above. It contains a „wheel of fortune” (?) machine with the signs (numbers?) which are similar to the undeciphered writing system of the Easterling (see here – and the Easterling letters below) in the LotR movies. Can it be the decoration connected with Necromancer, Dol Guldur and the tribes of the East? It is not Tolkienian one (though it may resemble Rúmilian letters sarati).
But we suppose the picture in fact doesn’t show the item from The Hobbit movies. And what do you think?
G-i-P stands for Gwaith-i-Phethain, ‘The Fellowship of the Word-smiths’ or the linguistic website devoted to post-Tolkienian constructions in the “reconstructed” languages of Middle-earth [link].
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11.10.12, 17:44, dodany przez Galadhorn
Source: LEGO
It is very strange (and stupid?). Last summer LEGO has announced the set „Battle the Cave Troll in The Mines of Moria!”. One of the panels in the Mines of Moria set is decorated with text written with the runes. They are in fact the same Futhark we know from The Hobbit (so they are not the Cirth from The Lord of the Rings). And they read:
Diordie [or Djordje] was here
Djordje is reportedly one of the designers that was working on the LotR LEGO theme…
G-i-P stands for Gwaith-i-Phethain, ‘The Fellowship of the Word-smiths’ or the linguistic website devoted to post-Tolkienian constructions in the “reconstructed” languages of Middle-earth [link].
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10.09.12, 17:38, dodany przez Galadhorn
[Na podstawie recenzji Johna D. Rateliffa – tutaj]
O nowym numerze Parma pisaliśmy już tutaj. Gdy tylko znalazłem więcej czasu, postanowiłem go zamówić (kolekcjonuję to czasopismo od wydanego w 1995 numeru 11). Uwaga, strona Parma Eldalamberon nie działa na wszystkich komputerach w Polsce! Jesteśmy z jakichś powodów „zbanowani” jako niechciany region świata przez administrację… Ale dla chcącego nic trudnego. Na fejsie, wśród znajomych mam Christophera Gilsona, redaktora, który zajmuje się sprawą dystrybucji. Bardzo szybko czasopismo do mnie dotarło – zapłaciłem 29 sierpnia, wysłano je do mnie 31 sierpnia, w skrzynce było już 5 wcześnia!
Może ktoś, kto nie interesuje się pismem tengwar, nie wierzy, że nowe Parma może przynieść coś ciekawego. Błąd! Jeżeli interesuje cię biografia Profesora i jego światopogląd, ten numer może być dla ciebie naprawdę ciekawy! Oczywiście najfajniejsze są kaligrafie Tolkiena w powstałym na początku lat 30. piśmie tengwar. Na 160 stronicach mamy mnóstwo reprodukcji – często bardzo dekoracyjnych inskrypcji. Każda z nich opatrzona jest transkrypcją i normalizacją od zapisu fonetycznego do obecnej angielskiej ortografii. Większość tekstów to notatki, listy, zapisy języka angielskiego – kilka w łacinie, jeden po starofrankońskim…
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10.09.12, 09:29, dodany przez Galadhorn
Source: private correspondence with Earl Carvalho (TORn)
Rivendell or „Imladris” as well as being „the last Homely House” and one of the last bastions of the Elvish presence in Middle-earth, was also the repository of its historical artefacts and manuscripts. Its interior halls were replete with banners, other heraldic devices and works of art and science…
Their walls were also covered with beautiful murals. Some of them contained the tengwar (‚Elvish letters’) inscriptions. Today we want to revisit Rivendell and read all these letters. As far as we can see on the movie pictures in the LotR trilogy and in the Hobbit trailer there are six paintings (their authors were in fact Alan Lee and Daniel Reeve), and three of them with the „Elvish letters”. Here they are. We provide our Readers with transliteration of the tengwar inscriptions:
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08.09.12, 10:46, dodany przez Galadhorn
Source: TheOneRing.net
Among the new photos from the Hobbit application that was launched yesterday (TheOneRing.net writes about it here) we have chosen one which shows more details of Dwalin’s runic tattoo. The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey will be full of runes. About Dwalin’s runic tattoos we were writing here and here.
[Dwalin’s] tatoos are the pictorial tale about Dwarvish history, laws, customs.
We think that the signs on Dwalin’s fingers are the famous Khuzdûl battle-cry:
Baruk Khazâd! Khazâd ai-mênu!
‚Axes of the Dwarves! The Dwarves are upon you’ (RK, App F)
They are written with Angerthas Moria runes (Baruk Khazâd – right hand, Khazâd ai-mênu – left hand).
The runes in the movie occur in two types: Anglo-Saxon Futhark known in its English version from The Hobbit book and Elvish-Dwarvish Angerthas of Middle-earth known from the inscriptions and an appendix in The Lord of the Rings book. Let us check out Dwalin’s photo! Let us decipher the runes!
G-i-P stands for Gwaith-i-Phethain, ‘The Fellowship of the Word-smiths’ or the linguistic website devoted to post-Tolkienian constructions in the “reconstructed” languages of Middle-earth [link].
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02.09.12, 20:27, dodany przez Galadhorn
[News from August has been updated! Runes have been almost resolved!]
About the Sindarin/Angerthas inscription on Orkrist’s blade we’ve alredy written here. As Earl Carvalho reports, a TORn board member, Altariel Noldo, has spotted another runic inscription in Sindarin on Orkrist’s scabbard (as shown on a photo on the Weta Collectors Forum) – see the discussion on TORn board here. The photo is reproduced below.
The Cirth runes are better visible on the photo prepared by „seregon13” from the Weta Collectors forum (see here):
So we can see the inscription which reads probably as follows (obscure runes in cursive):
HÜRN O GORW ITHLUIG UI NI MADWEG A SUIG
‚ready for action (pl.) from impetus [of] wisdom-serpents; everlasting I [am] gluttonous and thirsty’
*hürn adj. pl. ready for action (sg. *hurn, cf. hûr n. readiness for action)
or hern adj. pl. wounded (sg. harn)
or hürn adj. pl. driven under compulsion, impelled (sg. horn)
o prep. from, of
gorf gorw, n. impetus, vigor
*ithluig, n. wisdom-serpents = dragons
ui adj. everlasting, eternal
ni pron. I/me
madweg adj. gluttonous (PE 17:144)
a conj. and
*suig adj. thirsty (cf. Quenya soica ‚thirsty’)
[source: David Salo, A Gateway to Sindarin]
We should remember that the sword’s handle in the movie is made of dragon’s (literally lŷg ‘snake’) tooth. It seems that the scabbard is made of the same material. It gives more sense to the scabbard’s inscription.
What do you think about our translation of the Orkrist’s scabbard runes?
G-i-P stands for Gwaith-i-Phethain, ‘The Fellowship of the Word-smiths’ or the linguistic website devoted to post-Tolkienian constructions in the “reconstructed” languages of Middle-earth [link].
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30.08.12, 10:48, dodany przez Galadhorn
Source: Earl Carvalho
There are more and more runes of Middle-earth (in fact Anglo-Saxon runes) in the reports from the movie set. As Earl Carvalho reports a TORn board member noticed that one of the (as yet unidentified) Dwarves in vlog 8 has some runes on his costume (see here). Click the image on the left to see the details. The runes on the Dwarf’s costume have been already decipered by the TORn board members. It seems that the WETA use Anglo-Saxon Futhark (adopted for English by J.R.R. Tolkien in his Foreword in The Hobbit book) and not the Angerthas (runes of Middle-earth) from The Lord of the Rings Appendices. The runes on the Dwarf’s costume seem to read: B R O TH E R H OO D (deciphered by Grinman – see here).
G-i-P stands for Gwaith-i-Phethain, ‘The Fellowship of the Word-smiths’ or the linguistic website devoted to post-Tolkienian constructions in the “reconstructed” languages of Middle-earth [link].
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21.08.12, 10:42, dodany przez Galadhorn
Source: Earl Carvalho
About another Thrór’s Key we were writing already here. This time we can analyze the runes on probable actual movie prop. As our correspondent Earl Carvalho writes the new item on the Forbidden Planet website looks like Thrór’s Key („Thorin’s Key”) for the movies finally revealed (click the photo). It seems to match the production still in this image (click the second picture).
We might be mistaken, but there seem to be two words in runes that run down the key’s blade. Who first will decipher them?
G-i-P stands for Gwaith-i-Phethdain, ‘The Fellowship of the Word-smiths’ or the linguistic website devoted to post-Tolkienian constructions in the “reconstructed” languages of Middle-earth [link].
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01.08.12, 09:39, dodany przez Galadhorn
Źródło: Eldalamberon
Niecałe dwa lata mijają od wydania ostatniego numeru Parma Eldalamberon (wydawnictwa, które obok Vinyar Tengwar prezentuje nam nieznane rękopisy J.R.R. Tolkiena, dotyczące jego języków i pism – patrz tutaj). Nadchodzi dzień wydania kolejnego, 20. numeru tego cennego czasopisma. Ciekawostką wydania jest list Tolkiena do C. S. Lewisa zapisany kursywą tengwaru!
Nadchodzący numer zawierać będzie nieznane wcześniej dokumenty ukazujące wczesną formę jednego z elfickich pism, które znamy z Władcy Pierścieni jako tengwar. Materiały z archiwum J.R.R. Tolkiena opracował i opatrzył komentarzem Arden R. Smith pod okiem Christophera Tolkiena i za zgodą Tolkien Estate.
„The Qenya Alphabet” to opracowanie tabel i notatek Tolkiena z ok. 1931. Ujrzymy tam najwcześniejszą wersję pisma, które później Tolkien opisywał jako Fëanorian Tengwar. W tym numerze Parma Eldalamberon znajdziemy 40 dokumentów z przykładami tego typu pisma. Są to elektroniczne reprodukcje czarno-białych kserokopii oryginalnych rękopisów.
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01.08.12, 08:59, dodany przez Galadhorn
Here’s an image of a hip-flask that was given to the folks who worked in The Hobbit‚s costume department. The picture was provided by our special G-i-P Spy. We think it may be a good example of the runes/language that will be used in the films.
So far we have estimated that the runes are Angerthas Moria (or Angerthas Erebor) and the last line is the year date:
***
********
2012
Help us to decipher the rest of the runic inscription!
[Update:]
Pekka, a Tolkienian linguist from Poland proposes:
I’m not quite sure how you got the year, but from what I can see the runes seem to be Anglo-Saxon (and Hobbitish at the same time).
The first line makes no sense to me: H C(=K) D.
The second one, however, goes beautifully: SURVIVOR (where U=V).
Maybe H.C.D. (or H.K.D.) mean: Hobbit Costume Department? If so we have here:
[Anglo-Saxon runes:]
H[obbit] C[ostume] D[epartment]
SURVIVOR
[Angerthas Erebor runic numerals, know from The Book of Mazarbul:]
2012
G-i-P stands for Gwaith-i-Phethain, ‘The Fellowship of the Word-smiths’ or the linguistic website devoted to post-Tolkienian constructions in the “reconstructed” languages of Middle-earth [link].
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The German fan site Herr-der-Ringe-Film has posted new pictures from The Hobbit movies that are currently on display at the Frankfurt Book Fair. The most mysterious one is the picture above. It contains a „wheel of fortune” (?) machine with the signs (numbers?) which are similar to the undeciphered writing system of the Easterling (see here – and the Easterling letters below) in the LotR movies. Can it be the decoration connected with Necromancer, Dol Guldur and the tribes of the East? It is not Tolkienian one (though it may resemble Rúmilian letters sarati).
But we suppose the picture in fact doesn’t show the item from The Hobbit movies. And what do you think?
