G-i-P Report: More Sindarin, more runes!

Galadhorn, dnia 21.12.2012 o godzinie 8:31

The best way to reconstruct these phrases is to know the English subtitles which accompany the Sindarin dialogs. Do you know them?

cerebrum, dnia 24.12.2012 o godzinie 14:00

Suilad!

Here is my analysis concerning the sindarin phrases from the movie:

Lindir:
Lastannem i athrannedh i Vruinen.
subtitle: We heard you had crossed into the Valley.
(lit.: We heard that you had crossed the Loudwater.)

lastannem: lasta- (listen) + -nn- + -e- + -m (pa.t. 1st p. pl. excl.)
i: that
athrannedh: athra- (cross) + -nn- + -e- + -dh (pa.t. 2nd p. pl. form.)
i: the
Vruinen: lenited form of Bruinen (Loudwater)

Gandalf to Elrond:
Mellonnen! Mo evínedh?
subtitle: My friend! Where have you been?
(lit.: My friend! Where have you gone?)

mellonnen: mellon (friend) + -en (1st p. sg. poss.)
mo: where(?)
evínedh: e- + mín- ( iphant) (aged, lit. „year-full”) + -eth (cf. prestanneth, Ivanneth)
*mal: but (cf. Q mal)
*ú-eichia: ú- (not) + *eichia- (change) (cf. Q ahya-) (pr.t. 3rd p. sg.)
i: the
Chíril Lorien: lenited form of Híril Lorien (Lady of Lorien)

Galadriel to Gandalf:
Ae boe i le eliathon, im tulithon.
subtitle: If you should ever need my help, I will come.
(lit.: If it will be necessary to help you, I will come.)

*ae: if (cf. Q ai)
boe: it is necessary
i: that
le: you (acc.)
eliathon: elia- (help) + -tho- (< -tha-) + -n (fut. 1st p. sg.)
im: I myself
tulithon: tol- (tul-?) (come) + -i- + -tho- (< -tha-) + -n (fut. 1st p. sg)

cerebrum, dnia 24.12.2012 o godzinie 14:07

Oops, sorry. A part was somehow omitted. Now once again…

Lindir:
Lastannem i athrannedh i Vruinen.
subtitle: We heard you had crossed into the Valley.
(lit.: We heard that you had crossed the Loudwater.)

lastannem: lasta- (listen) + -nn- + -e- + -m (pa.t. 1st p. pl. excl.)
i: that
athrannedh: athra- (cross) + -nn- + -e- + -dh (pa.t. 2nd p. pl. form.)
i: the
Vruinen: lenited form of Bruinen (Loudwater)

Gandalf to Elrond:
Mellonnen! Mo evínedh?
subtitle: My friend! Where have you been?
(lit.: My friend! Where have you gone?)

mellonnen: mellon (friend) + -en (1st p. sg. poss.)
mo: where(?)
evínedh: e- + mín- (< *men- "go") + -e- + -dh (pa.t. 2nd p. sg. form.)

cerebrum, dnia 24.12.2012 o godzinie 14:08

Elrond:
Farannem ‚lamhoth i udul o charad. Dagannem rim na Iant Vedui. Nartho i noer, toltho i viruvor. Boe i annam vann a nethail vin.
subtitle: We’ve been hunting a pack of Orcs that came up from the South. We slew a number near the Last Bridge. Light the fires, bring forth the wine. We must feed our guests.
(lit.: We’ve been hunting Orcs that came from the South. We slew a number at the Last Bridge. Light the fires, fetch the miruvor. We must give food to our guests.)

farannem: fara- (hunt) + -nn- + -e- + -m (pa.t. 1st p. pl. excl.)
’lamhoth: lenited form of glamhoth (orcs, lit. „the dinhorde”)
i: who
udul: u- + tol- (tul?) (pa.t. 3rd p. sg.)
o: from
charad: stop-mutated form of harad (south)
dagannem: dag- (slay) + -nn- + -e- + -m (pa.t. 1st p. pl. excl.)
rim: great number
na: at
Iant Vedui: iant (bridge) + medui (last)
nartho: imp. form of nartha- (kindle)
i: reduced form of in (the, pl.)
noer: pl. form of naur (fire)
toltho: imp. form of toltha- (fetch)
i: the
viruvor: lenited form of miruvor
boe: it is necessary
i: that
annam: anna- (give) + -m (pr.t. 1st p. pl. excl.)
*vann: lenited form of *mann (food)
a: reduced form of an (for)
nethail: pl. form of nathal (guest)
vin: lenited form of mín (our)

cerebrum, dnia 24.12.2012 o godzinie 14:08

Galadriel to Gandalf:
Nae nin gwistant infanneth, mal ú-eichia i Chíril Lorien.
subtitle: Age may have changed me, but not so the Lady of Lorien.
(lit.: Alas, age has changed me, but (it) does not change the Lady of Lorien.)

nae: alas
nin: me
*gwistant: *gwista- (change) (cf. Q vista-) + -nt (pa.t. 3rd p. sg.)
*infanneth: infant (> iphant) (aged, lit. „year-full”) + -eth (cf. prestanneth, Ivanneth)
*mal: but (cf. Q mal)
*ú-eichia: ú- (not) + *eichia- (change) (cf. Q ahya-) (pr.t. 3rd p. sg.)
i: the
Chíril Lorien: lenited form of Híril Lorien (Lady of Lorien)

Galadriel to Gandalf:
Ae boe i le eliathon, im tulithon.
subtitle: If you should ever need my help, I will come.
(lit.: If it will be necessary to help you, I will come.)

*ae: if (cf. Q ai)
boe: it is necessary
i: that
le: you (acc.)
eliathon: elia- (help) + -tho- (< -tha-) + -n (fut. 1st p. sg.)
im: I myself
tulithon: tol- (tul-?) (come) + -i- + -tho- (< -tha-) + -n (fut. 1st p. sg)

Galadhorn, dnia 24.12.2012 o godzinie 16:01

Cerebrum, thank you very very much for this Christmas gift. I have made a news of this material. How did you do it? Have you received the dialogs from the producers? Or you wrote them from the listening? Good work! I am grateful!

cerebrum, dnia 24.12.2012 o godzinie 16:14

Oh, I’m not that good to write them from listening.

Well, let’s just say a little bird (maybe one of Radagast’s) told me about the dialogues and english subtitles. 😉